07-16-2011 09:31 AM - last edited on 07-16-2011 09:33 AM
Seems crazy to me. If I see an HOA over $300 i dont bother even looking. Feels like the HOA is taking advantage of the residents.
07-16-2011 01:06 PM
It is alot of money for HOA dues, and I'm not defending it but sometimes part of this money pays for the individual units use of Water, Trash, and Gas and almost always it pays for the Fire or Structure policy on the Condo when they are attached units.
Some of the newer communities, Ladera, Talega, Woodbury, Portola Springs, etc. just to name a few have some very high dues (usually 2 HOA's) but they have alot of amenities that many people do prefer and apparently don't mind paying for.
And remember, the HOA's are controlled by a board of directors (residents/owners) that make the budget decisions. I advise all my HOA buyers to get active in their communities and atleast go to the monthly HOA meetings and get involved, it's the best way to have any say in where the money gets spent!
07-19-2011 10:53 AM
When we were looking to buy a house/ condo, we were determined not to pay over $150 HOA dues. Our patience paid off as we ended up moving in a detached condo in RSM with HOA of $84 and RSM HOA of $55 in a very nice neighborhood. We don't have fancy amenities but RSM has lots of parks and swimming pools everywhere.
On another note, people who buy condos with very high HOA dues might end up turning around and selling the property right away or possibly rent the place in which case the association dues are deductible on the tax returns.
Best regards,
Ragi Riad, CPA
07-25-2011 10:38 AM
I know the community you are speaking of, it is very nice and the low HOA is a rarity in RSM.
08-01-2011 09:12 PM - last edited on 08-01-2011 09:18 PM
I work for a Property Management company that manages commercial owners associations which isn't much different from HOAs. When looking at a property in an owners association you can request to look at the current operating budget, current/past financials, and board meeting minutes to see where the property stands financialy, and operationally. Also, look at the amount in the Reserve account, this should be well funded in order to replace roofs, or parking lot repairs otherwise when the time comes owners will get a surprise bill for a portion of the expenses which can be in the hundreds to thousands. Another reason the dues may be high is that there may be significant delinquent owners. The associaiton still has to pay monthly expenses to maintain the property, so sometimes they will budget for a bad debt expense. Basically, they estimate how many owners will not be paying (i've seen $35,000 in one year), then they will add this amount to the operating budget to make up for the deficiency. Ultimately it is the non-delinquent owners that will be paying for the delinquent owners.
One more thing, look at the operating expenses on a per sq ft basis when comparing multiple properties, this will give you a better way to compare multiple properties. Consult with a property managemnt company, and they will be able to tell you what the average operating expense p/sq/ft should be.
Lots of things to consider when buying in an HOA, hope this helps.
08-04-2011 10:15 AM
The first thing I look at is the HOA. If it's not real close to $200, I don't even bother with the property. The HOA fees in Southern California are insane!
08-15-2011 02:50 PM
Most of the home owner Assoc. people are decent retired people who want to help the home owners but it takes only one dishonest person to be among them and insist in a lot of repair and change and choose contractors who will give him a lot of referal fees. Is good to get envolve in HOA gattering and be careful who you choose. Worse result of high Home owner association is that when greadually goes up brings the value of the property down.
08-16-2011 07:59 AM
Best advice I can give is to get involved in the community, go to HOA meetings (as boring as they sometimes are), even get on the board of directors. Most HOA's have a hard time getting homeowners to participate.Only by participating can you have any influence over budgets, repairs and dues, etc.
I'm very involved in 2 HOA's and there are NO referal fees paid to any board members at either of these 2 communities.
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